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== Name ==
 
: Wouldn't this being's name be more accurately translated to Vanitas''''s''' Sentiment (that is, the Sentiment of Vanitas), since the Japanese name is "Vanitasu no Shinen"?--'''''[[User:LapisScarab|<span style="color:navy;">Lapis of</span>]][[User talk:LapisScarab|<span style="color:darkred;">the Night</span>]]''''' 00:04, January 14, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
I think the name is okay. --[[User:Cococrash11|Cococrash11]] 00:06, January 14, 2010 (UTC)Cococrash11
 
 
It isn't a question of opinion, "Vanitas's Sentiment" is a more accurate translation, at least I think so.--'''''[[User:LapisScarab|<span style="color:navy;">Lapis of</span>]][[User talk:LapisScarab|<span style="color:darkred;">the Night</span>]]''''' 00:25, January 14, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
You don't even know the correct name of this character so I might as put it like that. --[[User:Cococrash11|Cococrash11]] 00:34, January 14, 2010 (UTC)Cococrash11
 
 
By "At least I think so" I meant that I didn't know if it was officially named "Vanitas Sentiment". "Vanitasu no Shinen" literally means "The Sentiment of Vanitas", thus, Vanitas's Sentiment.--'''''[[User:LapisScarab|<span style="color:navy;">Lapis of</span>]][[User talk:LapisScarab|<span style="color:darkred;">the Night</span>]]''''' 00:37, January 14, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
To make it gramatically correct it should be Vanitas' Sentiment. [[Special:Contributions/76.25.128.172|76.25.128.172]] 23:59, January 17, 2010 (UTC) Anonymous
 
 
:I would normally agree with you, but it's wiki policy to use "Vanitas's" and the like. Both forms are gramatically correct, but it was decided to use "s's" here.--'''''[[User:LapisScarab|<span style="color:navy;">Lapis of</span>]][[User talk:LapisScarab|<span style="color:darkred;">the Night</span>]]''''' 00:10, January 18, 2010 (UTC)
 
== Aqua? ==
 
 
{{Randomnessity|text=In the article it only mentions Aqua but I've seen Ven battling him so shouldn't it say Ven and Aqua?}}
 
Really? Could you link me a video because so far I have only seen aqua battling it.[[User:Xsonicdragon|Xsonicdragon]] 00:41, January 14, 2010 (UTC)
 
{{Randomnessity|text=The first thirty seconds isn't Ven, but the rest is.
 
 
Here you go.[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyqO_PrTLf4]}}
 
{{BBB|time=01:05, January 14, 2010 (UTC)|happy=Well, from that video, it almost looks like even Terra can fight him aswell.}}
 
{{Randomnessity|text=Most likely, but he hasn't been seen yet, so until then...}}
 
{{NeutraVega|It's been confirmed that Terra can fight him... It's just easiest for Aqua to access it, just by clearing Last Episode.}}
 
 
==Reward==
 
{{LapisScarab|time=01:13, January 14, 2010 (UTC)|text=Anyone know if beating this guy nets you any sort of prize, or is it more of a bragging rights boss?}}
 
{{Randomnessity|text=Well I don't think anyone has seen anyone beat him yet so it's tough to say. This is brought up towards the bottom of the Vanitas talk page if you want to see there. There's no more info though...}}
 
 
== Strategy...? ==
 
 
{{NeutraVega|Do we really need a "strategy" against this guy...cause, well...there isn't one! No one's beaten him yet, and no one even knows how really - hell, they can't even ''damage'' him... Not to mention, as I read through it and fixed it up yonder here and there, I just noticed quite a few erroneous-sure-to-be-certain-death "strategies" placed in there. I don't know about you guys, but I'm firmly against typing in random bullshit just to fill up the blank space...}}
 
{{LapisScarab|time=17:16, January 14, 2010 (UTC)|text=Yeah, other than the really basic information (1 health bar, ridiculously strong and fast), we barely know anything about fighting it. Better to wait until someone can at least ''hurt'' it before we really put a strategy.}}
 
 
Nomura said that a specific deck command or set of deck commands is needed.[[Special:Contributions/71.54.128.73|71.54.128.73]] 22:31, January 14, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
{{NeutraVega|Okay. So, do you know what those are? ...Didn't think so.}}
 
 
 
 
 
{{Venkix|text= Is there a video of Terra fighting Unversed vanitas? maybe Terra is the onyl one who could pysically hurt it. I could be wrong though.}}
 
==Defeated==
 
There's finally a winning video.
 
 
http://[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6NC0ejfjoE www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6NC0ejfjoE]
 
 
After you have defeated him ones can you do it again? I hope that he can be defeated more than just ones..[[User:P456|P456]] 18:36, March 25, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
== Misspelling? ==
 
 
Shouldn't it be just Vanitas' Sentiment? In normal english, as long as it has the posessive sound at the end we don't need the 's at the end. Just the ' for it. Are the rules different in Japanese? [[User:Hyperwire 2.0|Hyperwre_2.0]] 22:52, January 18, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
{{Randomnessity|isa=No. On the wiki we spell it as Vanitas's Sentiment.}}
 
 
 
Ehhh whatever. I don't really care, just thought I'd mention it. [[User:Hyperwire 2.0|Hyperwre_2.0]] 22:53, January 18, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
:Look at the top of the page, I already answered that.--'''''[[User:LapisScarab|<span style="color:navy;">Lapis of</span>]][[User talk:LapisScarab|<span style="color:darkred;">the Night</span>]]''''' 22:57, January 18, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
:You only remove the possessive s if the word's s is plural. So, "Jesus's", but "Cats'".[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 22:58, January 18, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
== terra confirmed ==
 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DtDEJ4-wcE
 
 
 
peace
 
{{NeutraVega|Thank ye. :3}}
 
==Reason for existence==
 
It appears that 'sentiments' are sentient lifeforms created by the intense emotions of a person who has lost their bodies, emotions finding residence in anything that could serve as a shell to hold their form together. Their power is completely fueled by their emotions, so naturally, they're pretty powerful, as seen in BBS when the Lingering Sentiment's power is enough to create a giant barrier to prevent Terra-Xehanort from escaping, amongst other powers. While primarily fueled by hate, he still has compassion, as he still thinks about Ven and Aqua. Vanitas's Sentiment on the other hand, was formed from a creature of pure evil. Because of Vanitas' nature, he was able to linger on in a ghastly form as a sentiment and it also explains why he is stronger as he has no positive emotions to offset his negative ones. [[User:Kaihedgie|Kaihedgie]] 15:29, February 13, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
== Voice Actor ==
 
 
Does it really says that Miyu Irino is his voice actor? I mean the game credit didn't even says its him. --[[User:Cococrash11|Cococrash11]] 05:27, March 10, 2010 (UTC)Cococrash11
 
:Tsk tsk tsk. *shakes head in utmost disbelief* Vanitas and Vanitas' Sentiment share the '''''same''''' voice actor. I mean, come on. The sentiment of a person has to have the original person's voice, and thus Vanitas' Sentiment is credited as Vanitas. It's '''''that''''' obvious.
 
 
:So if they were to use Haley Joel Osment or even Donald Reignoux as Vanitas, then they'd use the same person for the sentiment too. After all, many of them are the same battle quotes. It's just like the Lingering Sentiment and Terra in BBS : the same voice was used, but Terra is cited directly.
 
 
:Here too, I'd like to answer ENX's question on the Lingering Sentiment page : I know that the voice actor of Terra is responsible for the Lingering Sentiment's quotes, and that the LS is never cited in the credits as having a voice. But we should put the person responsible for his voice - at least we'll know it's ''voiced'', instead of just being plain voiceless.
 
 
:It's quite a good thing you both raised this up, because I can finally solve the whole problem with one locus standi. {{User:Troisnyxetienne/Signature}} 08:16, March 10, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
Obvious doesn't cut it. You guys are the one who said that you need proof and no speculation. There aren't any proof that its his voice actor. --[[User:Cococrash11|Cococrash11]] 23:06, March 10, 2010 (UTC)Cococrash11
 
:A ''sentiment'' is a representation of a ''character'', and for a ''sentiment'' to have a voice, no matter how enigmatic, ''the voice of the original character'' must be used. Vanitas' Sentiment, as you know, is directly linked to Vanitas. And so is the Lingering Sentiment directly linked to Terra at the end of his own story. Thus, Miyu Irino = Vanitas's Sentiment ; whoever's voicing Terra = the Lingering Sentiment. The only reason why it was not credited was because they make reference to the very first characters ; or it could also be due to the fact that they both have the same battle quotes as their original characters.
 
 
:So I'm not going to play rough and literally lay down the rules, but think upon the direct link. After all, it can't be anyone else. Vanitas' Sentiment can't be Akio Ohtsuka, of all people. That's pretty much common sense.
 
 
:And on a side note, sentiments and real selves have always used similar voices. Take a cue from ''II Final Mix+'' - the Absent Silhouettes share the same voices with their Chain of Memories counterparts. Auditory/visual proof, as per the videos, is proof enough. Note : Never in the Japanese/English versions has someone with a similar-sounding voice ever been substituted, except for cases where, perhaps, the original voice actor is engaged or cannot be found. {{User:Troisnyxetienne/Signature}} 23:16, March 10, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
To be fair, we require literal, 100% confirmation here don't we? Take for example when we first heard Vanitas himself talk, and a whole bunch of people wanted to place the actor it sounded like, but we kept that from happening because it wasn't confirmed. Surely the credits page of the game says who voiced him?--'''''[[User:LapisScarab|<span style="color:navy;">Lapis of</span>]][[User talk:LapisScarab|<span style="color:darkred;">the Night</span>]]''''' 01:43, April 3, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
== Ultimania ==
 
 
The ''Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep Ultimania'' does not classify Vanitas's Sentiment as an Unversed. Instead, it is classified as a non-Unversed enemy, like Zack and Master Xehanort. However, the Unversed ensignia on the sentiment's helm is misleading, and is leading me to think that the logo may not signify the sentiment being an Unversed, but instead his connection to the Unversed. Vanitas's Sentiment's status as an Unversed or non-Unversed needs to be decided on, so that this article may be removed from the "Unversed" category if necessary. --{{User:DoorToNothing/Sig}} 06:40, April 9, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
Y'know, I'm pretty the Ultimania isn't correct about everything. There's too much going against sayin' VS isn't an Unversed. He wears the symbol and is literally Vanitas's remnants in a physical form. A manifestation of his being. By all rights, he would be considered an Unversed. No doubt about it. He's a lot like the Lingering Sentiment in regards of how he operates. Being a creature of darkness whose strength seems to run on emotions, but not offset by positive ones, only negative ones. I'm not seeing he how he isn't an Unversed.[[User:Kaihedgie|Kaihedgie]] 06:48, April 9, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
== Keyblade ==
 
 
Check KH13 and you will see when you beat him you don't just get the Hidden Ore, in the North American version you get the Hidden Ore AND Vanitas's Keyblade!--My Keyblade + Your face = pwnage 19:26, July 8, 2010 (UTC)Chihuahuaman
 
 
==Encounter==
 
So... exactly how do Terra and Ven get to fight him? What circumstances need to be met? I know Aqua just has to clear the Last Episode, but I don't see that mentioned in the article either. Seems like something worth noting.{{User:LapisScarab/Sig}}07:33, July 10, 2010 (UTC)
 
:As far as I know the only condition to fight Vanitas's Sentiment is to clear the game with the corresponding character. After that it's possible to select another landing place at Keyblade Graveyard from the world map. --[[User:ShardofTruth|ShardofTruth]] 08:32, July 10, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
== Terra Video ==
 
 
The video of Terra fighting him is an english mod that needs to be removed, i would have done it but i don't know how to add videos and i don't want to leave the page without a Terra video.--My Keyblade + Your face = pwnage 20:53, July 16, 2010 (UTC)Chihuahuaman
 

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