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Aqua = Kairi's Unbirth ?
Okay. I mentioned this in Talk:Ven. Thought I'd mention it here since this is the talk page for Aqua.
From what we've seen, Sora turned into a Heartless (but was saved by Kairi), Roxas is his Nobody, and Ven is his Unbirth - heart, body and soul.
Kairi lost her heart and remained in a comatose state. She didn't turn into a Heartless because her heart was pure. When Sora sacrificed his heart to free Kairi, Kairi's Nobody, Namine, was born.
So could Aqua be Kairi's Unbirth ? Or, can we say that Kairi doesn't have an Unbirth because while she lost her heart, she still had the soul in her, that kept her in a comatose state ? Troisnyxetienne 15:36, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
Ok, first of all, a Nobody is both the body and soul. But This could be true. We know an Unbirth is the opposite of human life, that could mean their life is backwards, meaning an Unbirth's death results in a Human's birth. Terra's death= Riku's birth Aqua's death= Kairi's birth Ven's death= Sora's birth ... But that this would disprove my "Terra=Xehanort" theory. I suppose either is possible. Xnaminex 20:33, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
- The issue is, in one trailer, you see Terra looking at 4 year old Sora and Riku playing. XienZo 04:19, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Ohhh...not another one. I dun't want to seem rude or anything, but the thought of her bein' an Unbirth seems so unlikely. Aqua may seem to share a similar name meaning to Kairi, it matters not at all. Kaihedgie 08:23, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Well the only reason why I started this thing is because Kairi has a Nobody ! She should be an exceptional case ! Troisnyxetienne 13:08, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Truth be told, she's not. She's already got two connections as it is. Do you really believe Kairi needs a third one because of a name meaning? We don't even really know the origins of them other than the fact that they are connected to the Heartless or Nobodies, nor do we even know if they can assume human forms. Kaihedgie 17:57, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
I don't know. Well, we'll just wait and see what Tetsuya Nomura will have to say about this. As far as I can see, Sora and Kairi were the two exceptional cases. I somehow believe Terra hasn't really got a connection to Riku as many people speculate, but Sora and Kairi ? Also, it said rather explicitly that something happened to Ven and Aqua (for Terra to be calling out their names in Kingdom Hearts II: Final Mix+). That something could've been death, who knows ?
Then again... remember one of the Secret Ansem Reports ? All the hypotheses of Ansem the Wise and Organization XIII were shattered by three strong-hearted individuals - Sora, Riku and Kairi. Troisnyxetienne 02:10, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
Ok. I personaly think Aqua is in some way connected to Kairi when she dies. My theory is that some of Aqua (when she died) rubbed off onto Kairi a bit. Like a little bit of Aqua went into Kairi. Same with Ven into Sora. Otherwise, how would Xion have been able to take on Ven's appearence?? I also beleive the same with Riku and Terra. That was one of the reasons why the keyblade had trouble choosing between Sora and Riku. BTW I personally beleive that that Terra-Xenahort theory is wrong, you can't say they are connected just because--what, a few of their hairs are in the same place?? I believe thats kinda an out of nowhere just trying to make something up assumption. 18.104.22.168 21:41, December 23, 2009 (UTC) nobody
Aqua's outfit D:
Hasn't anyone around here noticed that it looks quite similar to a certain manly, thong-wearing black mage?
you mean kuja?*doesn't see a similarity*but then again i'm really blind..... Firaga44 20:43, December 7, 2009 (UTC)
Wow, I can't believe you think her outfit resembles Kuja's. I don't see anything looking alike overall. How'd you ever get that impression? You either studied her attire really well and come up with the conclusion that she looks like someone from Final Fantasy... Or just, for some reason think she's like Kuja... Actually, after thinking about it and remembering what you've suggested, I realized something. The color scheme for both Aqua [KH Birth By Sleep], and Kuja [FFIX] are almost entirely the same. The hair color, and shades of both their clothing... But I must add that this would be entirely coincedental, as blue is used to represent Aqua's name and if this was ever done on purpose, would be mentioned by Nomura. =D WinterChocolatt 03:44, January 25, 2010 (UTC)
Has anyone else noticed that the 'buckle' in the middle of Aqua's outfit looks like the nobody symbol upside down?Pizzahut101 01:02, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
Yes, it does look a little, indeed! Perhaps her connection to Xemnas and Xehanort? User:Death-Messenger, 20th August 2009.
I have studied a little: Kairi came from Radient Garden. So far, we only met her grandma and it's hinted she's dead. We never hear from her parents. Aqua is a Keyblade Warrior and Kairi is a Princess of Heart and both were alive before Radient Garden was destroyed. Her appearance hints she is, at least, 20 years old. What if she's Kairi's Mother?!
This could be the explanation for her likeness to Kairi! It would make sense Kairi, being a Princess of Heart, was daughter of a Keyblade Master! Maybe that would even explain why the Keyblade chose Sora! When the Heartless stole her Heart, the Keyblade went to her closest friend so he could help her, and it only happened to him because none of the other princesses were descendents from Keyblade Wielders! Makes Perfect Sense to me!
That also explains why she is the only Princess of Heart that fights, while all the others are just "Damsels in Distress"! It's in her Blood!
Okay, this same thing happened with Ven. Somebody thought Ven was Sora's father. I wouldn't be surprised if someone comes up and and says Terra is Riku's father. But there is one certain dilemma with these theories. It takes two people to make a child. Who are you sugesting the other parents are? User: Veroso 16:18 19 October, 2009
Aqua & The Slipper
Rushing to the stairs.
It could be master xehanort
Is it worth mentioning?
That she had her original character design changed at the request of disney? Ah, you mean Aqua's clothes? Yes, I know all about that for quite some time now. They're only changing her outfit because the outfit she's currently in right now shows her back and the creator will think that's too sexy. I read it in a interview.--NinjaSheik 00:12, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
I never saw that interview--Trainalf 01:00, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
It's on HeartStation. Org.--NinjaSheik 01:23, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
I found it, seems everyone but disney is on the same page. It really is a shame i must say.--Trainalf 02:24, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
Yes, it is. Aqua does look what they call "sexy", but it's not that bad. For Kingdom Hearts' sake, it's her back!--NinjaSheik 02:26, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
It's disney, even though i can point out times where they've allowed worse, i won't. Ah well, maybe they'll leave the design in the game files and it can be hacked?
Hacking's illgeal.--NinjaSheik 02:30, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
Yet sadly people still do hack games
Whatever. It's not my problem if you get in the slammer or not.--NinjaSheik 02:36, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
We've gone way off topic, and i don't hack, i watch videos and read about what is accomplished by hacking
Okay, so we know that Aqua's clothes will be changing because her clothes that she's already in makes her look too sexy. We're going have to deal with it, much to most people and my dismay. The end.--NinjaSheik 02:41, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
Agreed, end of this topic
KrspaceT; I don't see the change; and those back straps are not to sexy, if she was in short shorts or low top I would agree with disney.
Yup. Later, tater!--NinjaSheik 02:46, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
What's done is done. We can't change that.--NinjaSheik 22:05, October 1, 2009 (UTC) ``````````
KrspaceT; I don't see it. It isn't like the looks at FF X-2, then I would understand. Maybe its a move to have more "appealing" female protagantists, maybe Kairi and Namine will look like that later on
I don't mean to be rude, but instead of fixing the back, they couldn't do anything about her breasts? They are kinda... big, for a kids game or Kingdom hearts game!. But, at least they aren't Tifa's size... That would be very... distracting for the male population. >.>
xD jk jk. But seriously, they are kinda big.
22.214.171.124 18:13, February 25, 2010 (UTC)Black_Rose1809
Who she will be with
Krspace T; Debate time, so who will she end up with, Terra or Ven. This is just for opinions, I say Ven
KrspaceT; Perhaps they will have a date feature like with Final fantasy 7
that'd be cool!but i doubt it i thought nomura said there was no romance in the series? Firaga44 22:03, October 19, 2009 (UTC)
KrspaceT; He may have just meant KH 1, 2, 3 but they are older so he may change his mind, or he forgot --KrspaceT 17:21, December 13, 2009 (UTC) Plus, anyone else see the commercials, Aqua was fighting TERRA, and looked like she was going to cry about Ven being frozen. Play sappy romantic Violins, now I think it will be Ventus, so what if she's older then Ventus. Cococrash11
--KrspaceT 12:39, December 12, 2009 (UTC) --KrspaceT 12:39, December 12, 2009 (UTC)Well I saw a picture where Zak asks her on a date, who says Ventus wouldn't, plus she really was worried about him in the Birth by sleep battle video
I think Aqua is in love with Terra. There's several hints at it. Here is a list of them:
1) At the end of Olympus Coliseum when Aqua speaks to Hercules, she whispers that she believes Terra will become a hero.
2) After Radiant Garden, Aqua becomes much more focused on Terra’s doings, then again, she might just not have known about Ven still traveling worlds.
3) Aqua refused to believe that Terra would fall into darkness, even after what Maleficent told her, and she became very distressed when she found out the things he did with darkness were true.
4) The opening video. When Terra walks past her, Aqua clutches her heart with worry.
5) When comparing Sora and Riku with Ven and Terra, she wants Sora to help Riku, who is more like Terra.
6) When Aqua speaks to Maleficent after she is defeated by her and Prince Philip, Aqua mentions how she lost to the power of true love. Two people fought her and Aqua was one of them, fighting to prove Maleficent wrong about what she said about Terra stealing Aurora's heart (even though Maleficent was telling the truth). That could be a hint that Aqua has feelings for Terra.
7) Aqua almost seemed heartbroken when speaking to Terra in Radiant Garden about his darkness. She seemed the same way when they spoke in the Keyblade Graveyard and when Yen Sid told her that Terra played a part in Eraqus's demise.
8) THE MOST IMPORTANT: Aqua willingly jumped into the darkness to save Terra in the Last Episode and she even gave up her Keyblade and armor for him.
If she was given the chance to escape the Realm of Darkness, she'd probably want to try and save whatever is left of Terra and restore Ven's heart by taking it from Sora. Thus, there is a possibility of her returning as a villain in KH3, or the next game. As for who she could be with...Ven. Werehog 9:02 PM 2/22/2010 (UTC)
I always woundered why they have little bits of arm on--NikkieJay 14:50, November 3, 2009 (UTC)
20 years old is a bit much so I think since Ventus's age is 15 like Sora and Roxas and Aqua is the middle of the 3 Keyblade warrior maybe she's 16 and while I'm at it Terra is the oldest probably 17 years old. Thats what I think—Preceding unsigned comment added by Cococrash11 (talk • contribs)
Just looked at Aqua's armor on this page (the most recent incarnation). Aside from the armor that appears on her when not wearing the armor, I think it looks rather organic, kind of like Vanitas' clothing. Gonna check Ventus' and Terra's to see if this is a running pattern. Adam 148 18:34, December 11, 2009 (UTC) UPDATE: Just checked, yeah, the organic thing seems to be a reoccuring motif. Maybe this is the forerunner to the Drive Form?
Oooooh i see what you mean about the arms, yeah the same way Kairi's kinda flail like shes trying to fly. I think its a subtle connection if there is one at all.--Ximodnic 18:18, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
Very subtle.--User:RedemptionUltima 03:10, December 23, 2009 (UTC)
Fate Revealed @ JumpFesta 09?
Apparently the latest summary of the BbS trailer at JumpFesta depicts Vanitas impaling a 'fallen' Aqua with his Keyblade.
- Aqua stands in front of Castle Oblivion.
- Vanitas stabs his keyblade into a fallen Aqua.
- Unknown place. Aqua is pointing her keyblade at someone.
- Aqua: “My name is Master Aqua. And you will return my friend’s heart!”
- Aqua stands in a world of darkness and cries.
Is Jump Festa 10 and everybody stab by a keyblade has survived, so that doesn't tells us anything except that she gets stab.--Masgrande 21:03, December 23, 2009 (UTC)
Bubble Blaster Confirmed
Ok sorry for ruining stuff, i'll leave everything to you then.
I completely agree, even if Ventus doesnt die due to the freezing he isnt going to make it to the end of the game. Terra might survive in another form like merging with someone or becomming someone else but in a sense he would have died to. Aqua to me seems to be the most intresting character, i know she doesnt have a huge mystery or connection were aware of but she seems the most intresting to me. I think shell survive the ordeal and maybe go into hiding or just want to escape everything, for all we know she could a master of the keyblade at the Land of Departure.--Ximodnic 17:34, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
Aqua, Ven, Terra, and Master Eraqus's charms
I think it looks much more like the Nobody symbol. It's a bit of a stretch to call it the Heartless symbol, but I guess I CAN see the similarities... either way, that's just heresay and speculation.
This is all hypothetical, but in the scenario of Aqua leaving the Realm of Darkness and returning to The Radiant Garden to find her armor and Rain Storm, what is to stop Aqua from duel wielding Master Eraqus' Keyblade and her own? XYZ. 19:32, March 29, 2010 (UTC)
I'm not sure but she left her own keyblade on the real of light and as she was in the realm of darkness with her armor, I think that her armor stayed with her keyblade just like with the lingering sentiment--Xabryn 22:11, March 29, 2010 (UTC)
uh i don't get it how can sora and riku not notice aqua in the dark margin
my first time here THE ULTIMATE KINGDOM HEARTS FAN
She wasn't in the dark margin at the same time as riku and sora--Xabryn 18:25, April 8, 2010 (UTC)