User talk:WorldOfChaos/Archive 1

Please, stop

 * You an admin warning me you're gonna ban me? If not, then don't tell me to stop. The description comparing it to Anubis is overly-detailed and unnecessary; you could just as easily say he looks like Batman. The sentence is sloppy in comparison with the rest of the section, and the Anubis reference is not needed. The description already there combined with the images of the armor are sufficient, and removing the reference makes the article as a whole look nicer. --WorldOfChaos 00:27, December 9, 2009 (UTC)


 * Well I have told you my reasoning now kindly gtfo my page. --WorldOfChaos 17:19, December 9, 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks, bitch!--WorldOfChaos 22:47, December 9, 2009 (UTC)


 * Let me start from the beginning. I don't like the demyx guy because of his arrogant revert summary that contained no reasoning. And I called the Namine kid a bitch because she called me a jerk.

Oh, and please don't use my talk page for a forum. If you want to ask the demyx guy why he is commenting on this, do it on his page please. Thanks.--WorldOfChaos 23:06, December 9, 2009 (UTC)


 * You obviously didn't read my previous comment. I realize you have a name, and regardless of how you think I'm acting, it would be polite not to start insulting. If you start namethrowing, I'll throw right back. --WorldOfChaos 23:11, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

Warning
Wikia policy is that talk pages may be archived, but cannot be erased or have comments removed. Small edits (like to fix an error in spelling or grammar) are fine.

Incidentally, I am an admin, and if I find anymore language like you've used above, you will be banned. Bebop Kate  23:46, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

There's no need to attempt to intimidate me, I am unintimidated by the elderly (assumption entirely based on your user page description), and I have no grievance towards you, especially since you talk with reason. Can you explain this archive feature, or tell me where I can learn about it? By the way, is there any chance that ugly warning box could be removed, since I only removed the contents twice, and both times I was unaware of the policy? I understand if it cannot be done. --WorldOfChaos 23:56, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

I told you not to do that and so did Lady EO. If you don't believe me, Lady Kate, check the history.-- Ninja Sheik  00:04, December 10, 2009 (UTC)

No, it is also against wiki policy to remove the warnings. LapisScarab 00:06, December 10, 2009 (UTC)

I can see that this is an unmovable object, and I definitely don't feel like being an unstoppable force for this. --WorldOfChaos 00:14, December 10, 2009 (UTC)

Let me give you a piece of advice: When you get three warnings, you're out. So, I watch it if I were you.-- Ninja Sheik  00:17, December 10, 2009 (UTC)

BebopKate told me that small edits are fine (no she did not say "just spelling and grammar" she used those as an example), and I don't have any idea who "Lord EO" or "Lady Kate" are (well the Kate is kinda implicit) and am changing it to the correct names, thank you. Oh, and thanks for the advice. I agree that I watch it if you were me. --WorldOfChaos 00:22, December 10, 2009 (UTC)

I call them that. I've always have. Lord EO was what I used to call him until he changed his account name and Lady Kate is short for BebopKate. Change it again and I can give you another warning.-- Ninja Sheik  00:24, December 10, 2009 (UTC)

NinjaSheik likes to use nicknames, but it isn't your fault for not knowing that. That said, what point was there in changing her message in the first place? Anyone who was confused, including you, would just have to ask who she was talking about. And you clearly knew who she meant, otherwise you wouldn't have known what names to change "Lord EO" and "Lady Kate" to. LapisScarab 00:29, December 10, 2009 (UTC)


 * Oh, and in response to your earlier question concerning archives, see here. EDIT:And please take note that archiving talk pages is preferrably used if they get too long. LapisScarab 00:35, December 10, 2009 (UTC)


 * ... Did either of you read ANYTHING I said? BebopKate told me that small edits are fine , and name corrections isn't a big edit, right? Now I will wait a day or so, and if BebopKate (or any other admin) finds no problem with me changing the names, I will change them back because I like it that way on my talk page.
 * Man, if you people haunted the articles as much as you're haunting my talk page, I wouldn't even have to BE on this wiki to help clean it up!--WorldOfChaos 15:38, December 10, 2009 (UTC)

She meant to articles! You are such a jerk!-- Ninja Sheik  21:56, December 10, 2009 (UTC)

Calm down NinjaSheik, at the top of this section, Kate did say that spelling and grammar edits are okay on the talk pages. Why don't we agree to disagree? LapisScarab 22:00, December 10, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, let me rephrase that; She meant the arcitles, inculding talk page, but you still can't changes someone else's comments.-- Ninja Sheik  22:06, December 10, 2009 (UTC)

That's true, don't change comments unless they're cussing you out or doing something else like that. --Nitrous X 22:16, December 10, 2009 (UTC)


 * I am correcting your comments, but none of this matters anyways because I'm just gonna archive it so it's no longer making my talkpage look like crap.
 * And to any admins reading this, I would like to contact you about a certain issue, but I am currently blocked by some burro, so please contact me. --WorldOfChaos 15:32, December 11, 2009 (UTC)

yo
hey, dude, i'm Neumannz, nice to meet you. i was reading your page and was surprised to see that you mentioned Sora/Riku pair-ups, but not Roxas/Axel--which annoys the living crap outta me because it's so bloody persistent (like, even more than S/R).

anyway, i like your mission statement, though i haven't noticed any really bad examples of wordiness (the anubis thing wasn't wordy, just wrong), but as a guy who's sat back and watched other ridiculous arguments over edits, i gotta say, you're not gonna get anywhere being confrontational, because there are too many people on this wiki who will react in kind. so, maybe try for more diplomacy, 'cause most editors will be reasonable if you are, too (even/especially NinjaSheik) ——Neumannz 00:04, December 10, 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the info, I realized there would be problems with confrontation. And yeah the Anubis thing WAS wrong, it's just that experience with stubborn internet types told me that I had to give some kind of reason. But what do you mean by "diplomacy"? --WorldOfChaos 00:14, December 10, 2009 (UTC)


 * [frowns] well, i'm lookin' higher up on this page, and "gtfo" was probably a bad idea. also, the line where you ask Sheik if she was going to ban you, and if not, etc. could have been worded better (though i can see what the idea was supposed to be). also, calling Kate "elderly", even if it was true (it's not; she's like, 30).  --Neumannz 00:28, December 10, 2009 (UTC)


 * The elderly comment doesn't bother me. It's part of the joke, actually.  But yeah, "gtfo" and cursing at others aren't well received here.  It's okay to argue your points, but don't get nasty or abusive because it goes pretty much nowhere, as I'm sure you've pretty much seen before.  Keep your cool, contribute, and you should be fine.  Bebop  Kate  01:45, December 10, 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes well you have to understand how it is for me when several people start filling up my talk page with crap, especially when my edits are being reverted by stuckup internet nerds (posting an image as an edit summary and saying "fail" is, in my eyes, stuckup). I for one would consider "gtfo" rather generous, but I understand. And to Neumannz, I still don't have a clear understanding of what you meant by "diplomacy", but if you meant what BebopKate said (argue but be nice etc.) then yeah I knew that, I was just frustrated by NinjaSheik's pointless comments on my page. --WorldOfChaos 15:33, December 10, 2009 (UTC)

FOR ADMINS ONLY: Regarding the Talk Page

 * I'm not Hexed, but I am an admin. What's your question? Glorious  CHAOS!  08:19, December 12, 2009 (UTC)


 * My question is, I have been told by many users and an admin here that I cannot remove the content of my talk page. However, I could not find ANY page on this wiki saying such a thing. So I emailed Wikia asking about this, and the respondant said there was no such policy in place (if you would like I can forward you a copy of this). What I want to know is what is going on, because I have had to deal with alot of crap for trying to clear my talk page, and I can't find any proof about whether or not I can edit my talk page, AND I got a warning from some.... kid (MAN this is testing my patience) and then Wikia tells me the policy doesn't exist. So basically I want an explanation, and a damn good one. --WorldOfChaos 16:32, December 12, 2009 (UTC)

It's not so much a written rule as it is common sense. You don't go erasing other people's thoughts and opinions just because you think it gives you a bad image. Live and learn, boi. Maggosh 16:36, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
 * I made this section for admins so they can help me out here, pinche burro, so what the hell are you doing here. If it's not a rule then I don't have to follow it. I can erase whatever the hell I want if it's on MY talk page, and Wikia told me so, boi. --WorldOfChaos 16:39, December 12, 2009 (UTC)

Dude, relax, I'm only trying to help. And I don't think you started this section; Kryten Koro did, if I'm not mistaken. Maggosh 16:45, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
 * I will not relax when you are talking like some arrogant a-hole, and you ARE mistaken. The admin "Glorious Chaos" made his post under user LapisScarab's section, but I moved it to a new section because I wanted everything regarding my question to him in a different section. And if you're trying to help, on my [WORDICAN'TSAY]-O-Meter, your actions have currently placed you here:    - <..I.......> +  So I suggest maybe NOT trying to help for a while. --WorldOfChaos 16:59, December 12, 2009 (UTC)

Well, excuse me, but that's no reason to talk like that. Maggosh 17:03, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
 * Well you heard what I have to say to you, now please, you're taking away from the intended topic of the section. --WorldOfChaos 17:09, December 12, 2009 (UTC)

He's trying to help you. Lay off him.-- Ninja Sheik  18:02, December 12, 2009 (UTC)


 * OMFG will you get the hell off my page? You're like a #$%@ing parasite clinging to my talk page! This section is for admins who I need to contact! Not for users to complain! --WorldOfChaos 18:05, December 12, 2009 (UTC)

You're being rude!-- Ninja Sheik  18:39, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
 * I'M being rude?! YOU'RE butting your head into things that don't concern you! THAT's rude! Stop spamming up my page! --WorldOfChaos 18:43, December 12, 2009 (UTC)

WHat the heck is your problem! I never did anything to you!-- Ninja Sheik  18:45, December 12, 2009 (UTC)

Why don't we all just get off this person's talk page? If you're not one who this person is asking for, get off here pronto. That means you too, NS. There's no reason for you to pop in randomly and think you're actually going make this situation better. Instead, why don't all of us (me included) who ISN'T an admin get off this page now. That'll be a big help to this user and to us, rather than being impulsive… people and spamming away at this talk page and harassing this person. -- 光に、 闇に、  虚無.   19:06, December 12, 2009 (UTC)

Fine.-- Ninja Sheik  19:08, December 12, 2009 (UTC)


 * THANK YOU Japanese symbols person! --WorldOfChaos 19:11, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, part of it is that most wiki's inherit wikipedia guidelines, unless otherwise specified. User talk pages do not belong to you (technically, neither do user pages, but we let that slide), and are specifically devoted to allowing other editors to contact you, regardless of what they say. Comments should only be removed if they are purely vandalism (Ex: "TITS TITS TITS SAMWICH"), but inactive discussions can be archived.
 * EDIT: Here is the parent guideline. I have not specifically heard of any desire to use a different policy in regards to user talk pages, so consider this the rule for now. So, this would in effect mean that while you are allowed to remove the above comments from your page, they will still serve as "first warnings" if there are further problems with civility. As an example, Maggosh above tried to answer your question, politely, and you bit his head off. That kind of behavior is probably why Hexed blocked you. Glorious  CHAOS!  19:23, December 12, 2009 (UTC)


 * Have you read that guideline from Wikipedia that you gave me? It says that I may remove comments from my page (archiving is PREFERRED, not required), even warnings, except the warnings still count. So basically, I can erase EVERYTHING on this page because it is my own talk apge and not someone else's. Correct me if I interpreted this wrong. The text that led me to this conclusion is this:

"Users may freely remove comments from their own talk pages, though archiving is preferred. They may also remove some content in archiving. The removal of a warning is taken as evidence that the warning has been read by the user."


 * Which would mean that if I am correct, and I am fully allowed to remove ANYTHING from my talk page, then the warning I was given to not remove the content of my talkpage is nullified, because I am allowed to remove content if I want. It doesn't make sense to arrest someone for speeding, then in court say that there is no speed limit, but the person still recieves a warning.


 * You say I "bit Maggosh's head off". I responded to him in such a way because of the arrogant attitude in which he "helped" me, which is the reason why my talk page is filled up in the first place (the attitude, not the help). I don't care if he's trying to help, the section was meant for admins because admins have the last say in things, and even if he meant no harm, I will not tolerate such an attitude as the one he gave me. --WorldOfChaos 20:34, December 12, 2009 (UTC)

First, it is listed as a guideline at Wikipedia. Here, it is treated as a rule. I am sorry you feel you were misinformed, and we will make sure to put up something making that clearer for future users. Two other sysops have backed up the information at this point, however, and so it is, in fact, a rule. Arguing with us or nitpicking is not going to change anything about it.

Second, as Kryten said, this is not your page. This is a page for others to use to contact you. If you do not like the nature of discussion here, you can politely ask the editor to take it to a more appropriate area (Forums, IRC, etc.) As I said before, we don't appreciate rude behavior here, and in spite of what you seem to think, it is not appropriate to tell someone to "gtfo".

As I said, if you are willing to work with us, we will be happy to have you. But if you don't like sharing a wiki with "kids" and "nerds" and can't treat them as fellow editors and real people, then this is probably not the place for you. Bebop Kate  21:08, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, technically, since we are a branch of wikia, and are not wikipedia, those should not rules do not apply to us. Just saying. EDIT: Oops, did not see Bebopkate's post. Ult ima  21:10, December 12, 2009 (UTC)

Ok, first, I just wanted confirmation because I was not getting any. Another thing I would like someone to tell me is WHY it's a rule, and why it's not with the other rules on the User pages rules. Second, I know this is not MY page, it's obviously owned by Wikia. But what should I call it then? "The Talk Page For User WorldOfChaos"? I use the phrase "my talk page" because it is the talk page that is assigned to my username. Next, you keep saying that I keep saying "gtfo" when I only said it once. Also, I NEVER said it was appropriate, only generous. You say you do not appreciate rude behavior, and that I can ask anyone to please take their conversation to another place such as a forum or IRC. And yet when I receive rudeness myself (Maggosh's attitude, NinjaSheik's namecalling and constant interjecting), I get warned for responding in like. And people like NinjaSheik and Maggosh do not take the conversation elsewhere, even when I ask. You say I cannot share a wiki with nerds and kids. The internet is filled with both, and here I am. I can tolerate both, but I never called anyone a nerd, and I only called NinjaSheik a kid, and that was because I didn't know her gender and the words I wanted to use would have gotten me banned. I can tolerate people, but I will not stand for being talked down to by someone whom I have done nothing to. And I would not treat them that way unless they first treated me in the like. --WorldOfChaos 21:44, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but when NinjaSheik called you a jerk (Due to your behaviour, and decided, no, WANTED, to end the argument there, might I add), you replied by calling her a bitch. Quite a drop in equality, don't you think? Maggosh 21:54, December 12, 2009 (UTC)


 * No I don't think so at all. An insult is an insult. It was not her argument to end, and PLEASE (see, BebpoKate? I asked), I intended this section to be for admins only. --WorldOfChaos 21:57, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
 * See, that's the thing; you said it's intended for admins only. Not strictly for admins. Therefore I am allowed to respond. And I do believe that if my name is mentioned concerning my behaviour, I have an obligation to respond. Enjoying your feast? Maggosh 22:02, December 12, 2009 (UTC)


 * I said that because I was unsure whether or not I can prevent other people from writing here. I'm changing it now, so please do not post on my talk page under this section. And once again, I do not appreciate the arrogance (see again, Kate? What would you have me do now?). --WorldOfChaos 22:10, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
 * One more thing; how is it you find my responses 'arrogant'? Maggosh 00:06, December 13, 2009 (UTC)

WorldOfChaos, why do you continue to respond and see the need to get the last word in? You complain people are on this page, and then you incite them and give them a chance to respond back. In fairness, that's something a lot of editors on this wiki need to work on, but it doesn't make you any better than them. I have talked with the two editors involved; they know to leave this issue alone, and if they choose to interject again, another admin or I will deal with them.

However, I'm more concerned with the larger issue at hand: this "tolerant" attitude. In your choices of words both here and on your user page, such as "nerds", "retards", and other names and phrases, you don't come across that you are here to work with us, but rather against us. You shouldn't have to "tolerate" us if you really want to assist us by following the guidelines we've already established, many of which are to prevent the so-called "f#%$holes" from posting non-canon and useless material here. All you've really demonstrated is disdain towards us as a whole and then wonder why other editors feel the need to tell you they're upset when you respond in a similar fashion. I don't know what your trying to prove or who you're trying to prove it to, but it's not impressing anyone around here.

You seem like a very articulate, well-spoken, and organized person, and goodness knows any wiki needs more of those. But I only have so much free time, and I would rather spend it improving the wiki than continuously reprimanding multiple posters, and I know the other admins feel the same way. I've already told you what we need from you, and if you have any questions, you need only ask here, on our talk pages, or in the forums if you are unsure. Bebop Kate  05:18, December 13, 2009 (UTC)


 * Merci beaucoup, BebopKate. As for my stand on the rule of removing comments from talk pages, please see Kryten's talk page. And lemme make it clear : As much as I respect your need to make KHW better than it is ^_^, I do not - and I mean I DO NOT - tolerate the use of expletives without valid reasons. You've exhausted one warning, please don't prompt me, BebopKate or the rest of the Staff or frequent users from slapping another on your talk page. Please. And thank you.  TNÉ  Pour Noël je te donnerai le battement de mon cœur… ♥ 16:28, December 14, 2009 (UTC)